NFL & The Cannabis Playbook: Pro Athletes Speak Out

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Maria
Hello. Hello and welcome to Just Saying Know, the show where we spotlight cannabis innovators, game changing products and the visionaries driving the legal cannabis movement. I'm your host, Maria Calabrese, broadcasting on KCAA radio 1050 AM, 106.5 FM, the station that leaves no listener behind. Hey, the cannabis industry. Check this out. It's projected to reach a staggering $200 billion annually.

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Maria
200 billion each and every year surpass the combined revenue of the NFL, MLB and NHL. With numbers like that, it's clear the cannabis isn't just in the game, it's changing the playbook. Hey, everybody ready for Sunday with Super Bowl? Super Bowl Sunday again. Your bats in. Well much like the Super Bowl. Cannabis brings people together. And this year it's making its mark on one of the biggest events in sports.

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From exclusive brand activations and collaborations with NFL legends to infused game day condiments. Cannabis is officially part of the lineup. Mint cannabis, for example, in Arizona. They they told me that they've already received over 200 Super Bowl preorders for infused pizzas, sandwiches, tacos and sides, some packing up to 100mg of THC for recreation or consumers. Wow wow wow.

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Cresco labs good news cannabis. They're spicing up the Super Bowl celebrations with THC infused Buffalo and Asian barbecue wings sauces. Yes, condiments are back in select states stores, and Beckel is bringing their Volcano Vape berries. Or, by the way, guys. Wow. Dry herb vaporizing versus smoking. That will definitely be an episode of stores and Bickell has one of the best dry herb vaporizers.

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Desktop and portable. But the volcano vaporizer, they're bringing it to Bourbon Street for an activation at the Sports Illustrated party at Mardi Gras World, where if you're lucky enough to be going to that, you can take Delta nine flower. It's just steps away from the Super Bowl kickoff. But let's face it, cannabis still raises a lot of questions.

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Maria
Our Hampshire marijuana the same. Will CBD get me high? Can I get the benefits without smoking? Will interfere with my meds? Where do I even start? So why not ask the pros who are putting cannabis into their playbooks? Today, I'm bringing you exclusive insights from former NBA stars Al Harrington and John Salley, former NFL pros Matt Lundgren and Nick Moody, and the cannabis Yogi Allysa Maroney.

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So sit back, relax, and let's dive into how sports are reshaping the cannabis world. One game changing move at a time.

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By 2020. Bank of America Merrill Lynch estimate that will grow to $35 billion. And many experts believe it could eventually reach $200 billion each and every year.

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Maria
And we've seen cannabis make its way into mainstream sports culture. But for many professional athletes, it's more than just a trend. It's a necessity. Injuries, chronic pain and post-career health struggles have led many former pros to turn to cannabis not only for personal relief, but as a business opportunity to help others. A few years ago, at the State of Cannabis Conference on the historic Queen Mary in Long Beach, California, I attended a panel of athletes who are now industry leaders at the frontlines of the legal cannabis movement.

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Al Harrington, former NBA player and founder of Vola, a premium cannabis brand dedicated to social equity and top shelf products. He was among the panel Matt Nordgren, former backup quarterback and managing partner at Arcadian Capital. He started a fund investing in entrepreneurs shaping the future of cannabis. I like this fund because Arcadian believes that wellness enables wealth when we unlock our full physical, mental and social well-being.

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Potential allies. The Maroney, the cannabis Yogi and founder of Bend and Blaze Yoga, also attended. Bend. Blaze focuses on how cannabis, combined with yoga can enhance performance and help heal after post-workout recovery. Maroney is also the founder of the Lucky Box Club, a premier California cannabis delivery service and Nick Moody, former NFL player turned cannabis entrepreneur, now runs a cultivation and manufacturing operation.

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Moody knows the struggle firsthand. As a former San Francisco for 40 niners go 40 Niners linebacker, he played through injuries, battling the NFL to drug policies as much as the opposing team's running backs, tight ends, quarterbacks and offensive linemen. Each out to block guard and tackle for him. Cannabis wasn't a crutch, it was a tool. It helped with focus, pain management and post game recovery.

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Maria
But while the league turned a blind eye to opioid, culture came down hard on THC slapping players with fines, suspensions and constant surveillance. Moody's experience isn't unique. Many former pros beyond and those participating on the panel that I attended, they're speaking out. They're speaking about about the UN speaking out about the unfair policies and double standards in sports.

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Maria
Let's have a listen to an excerpt from the panel as each shared why they made the leap from sports to cannabis entrepreneurship, and why they believe athletes deserve access to cannabis for recovery and wellness.

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Panel Host
All right. So welcome to our Pro athletes and cannabis panel. This is also for anybody that's an athlete. Whether you're 80 years old and you go for a walk in the evening, if you're a runner you like to swim or whatever. Anybody can use cannabis within athletics. So we're quite lucky to have these high end professional athletes up here with us.

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Panel Host
I'm going to start off by letting our panelists, starting with al here, introduce themselves.

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Al Harrington
Well, how are you doing? My name is Al Harrington, former NBA player. I played 17 years professional basketball from new Jersey, now reside here in Los Angeles. So the war on drugs was really real where I grew up, either seeing people getting locked up or I was always taught to believe that cannabis or marijuana at the time, or reefer, how people should talk about it.

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Al Harrington
Where I'm from was a gateway drug. So throughout my whole life, especially me going to the MBA out of high school, I was always afraid of cannabis. And when I got in the NBA, that was the first time that I saw actually like, you know, top notch players actually using cannabis. But at the time, I still didn't understand that.

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Al Harrington
It still didn't make sense to me. And I looked down on my teammates that use cannabis. But, in 2011, my grandmother had come to see me play when I was playing for the Denver Nuggets, and Denver was obviously one of the first markets to, you know, have a medical program. And she suffered from glaucoma. And, you know, glaucoma was always the first, you know, thinking that cannabis was something they considered to heal.

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Al Harrington
So I was able to convince her to try cannabis. And it was hard because, you know, she was the main person growing up telling us that we was a was a gateway drug. And, when I was able to get her to try it, you know, I checked on an hour and a half later and I went downstairs.

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Al Harrington
She was downstairs reading her Bible and, you know, and I asked her how she was doing. She said, I'm healed. She said, it's the first time I've been able to read my Bible in over three and a half years. And for me, that correlation was just crazy that, you know, from someone like her. And I always say, like, if my grandmother's not going to heaven, we're all going to hell.

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Al Harrington
And, you know, for the first thing that she would do would actually go down and read her Bible. You know, they spoke volumes to me. And at that point, I started to educate myself. The end of that season, I actually had a knee surgery and got a staph infection. I was in hospital for, you know, ten days.

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Al Harrington
I have, you know, four surgeries in a week. At some point, I thought I was going to die. But, when I was sitting in there, obviously I'm taking all this pain medication and this lady that I had knew in Colorado came to see me, and she introduced me to CBD, and she gave me all these topical. She gave me tinctures, capsules and, you know, ever since that day, I haven't taken an aspirin.

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Al Harrington
I haven't taken an Advil, I haven't taken any pharmaceutical drugs to manage my pain away from the game. And, you know, pretty much that's my story. And that's why I'm here.

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Matt Lord
My name is Matt Lord, and I run a fund called Arcadian. We do a lot of investing in the industry. I've been doing that for years. I've been very successful at it. Also was a former athlete. I was a backup quarterback my whole career. Didn't have to use a lot of it for pain, but was around a lot of guys that did for a long time and really saw a lot of benefit that it did give a lot of athletes in my own personal story.

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Matt Lord
My grandmother had Alzheimer's. We were able to help her quality of life at the end of her life. Had a couple of cousins with cancer, was able to help the quality of their life at the end of their life. All three have passed, and so it feels really good to be in an industry that you can do good business and feel good about the business that you're doing every day.

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Eliza Maroney
Hi everyone. My name is Eliza maroney. I am the co-founder of Lucky Box Club, a cannabis subscription service here in California, and I am also known as the Cannabis Yogi. So I've launched a brand that infuses yoga classes with cannabis in various different ways. Every attendee receives a lucky box, one of our boxes, and they get to learn about new brands and products in the process before, during, and after their classes.

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Eliza Maroney
It gives people a really warm, intimate space to experiment with new products and to learn about the different ways of using cannabis and CBD as well. We have CBD only boxes and I am in this because I just like everyone else, I think in this room, have been profoundly moved by this amazing, incredible plant in many different ways.

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Eliza Maroney
So my history does stem back to being a cultivator and going from cultivation into retail and really understanding the entire plant process, and I'm really proud of that. I am not a professional athlete. I'm the only one on this stage right now, but I do have a lot of insight into how cannabis can enhance performance. And it can also help people to heal after post-workout and and, and games.

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Eliza Maroney
I would imagine. So thank you.

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Al Harrington
Nick Moody I actually recently just retired an NFL family too. As well, I'm here to focus on this industry. I play for the 40 niners. That's what you have to me. The kind of my introduction to the industry first hand, the Niners and then the, Seahawks and, the Redskins. We got a company started a couple years ago.

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Al Harrington
Initially, my dad and a couple partners were switching over from a growth to a manufacturing facility. So that's what our primary focus is right now. And the reason I'm really big on marijuana is it's not just me, it's my family. We as a whole, we believe that the benefits of it, not just physically, but like your mental well-being.

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Al Harrington
And with my history in football, I mean, I played linebacker in free safety at Florida State and then in the league. So I've had plenty of injuries, dislocated shoulders, broken bones, concussions, disc issues, arthritis. So I've had pretty much just about anything you can imagine. So my thing is like the benefits of the just the plan itself, them wanting to restrict us from being able use it and prescribe us opiates.

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Al Harrington
That's a big contradiction in my opinion. And that's what I'm kind of getting into. More so now is the advocacy for that and the willingness and the THC and CBD as well. So that's why I'm here.

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Panel Host
I want to just say it must feel good to be able to come out of the closet of cannabis and not have the NFL breathing down your neck.

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Al Harrington
That was huge, because personally, for me experience, I was a guy that was actually in the drug program. So I got put in there for two years and I put in there, well, I failed the test and then I was placed in there. I was tested twice a week every week. So up to eight times a month they would come six in the morning, three in the afternoon.

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Al Harrington
Saturday mornings ask you where you are. You got to give them a log of your travel. So I actually had family members and friends that have actually been on probation. They had less restrictive than I did. But just being in that process and seeing other guys go through that process, and then you actually kind of really realize how much cannabis does help you in terms of your injury and then the stress and like dealing with the stress of being a pro athlete, the family demands and all that stuff.

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Al Harrington
And then when you have that taken from you, when you're somebody that actually relies on that, you don't even realize you rely on it, but it does really help you. You kind of see like the negative outcome with it. Sometimes you, you be in certain situations that we wouldn't even have been in, that when if you were allowed to still be able to use cannabis.

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Al Harrington
I've seen different guys get into situations when they're in a job, a program where they started doing things they would never normally do, and they were just like completely different people. And I honestly, I think that with the NFL program, they kind of do more detriment than they do good when they restrict us and then try to tell you what to do.

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Al Harrington
And this is how you need to act, and you got to follow these rules and you can't act like everybody else, even though you know a person, but you got to act a certain way. Meanwhile, some of the guys that had give writing the checks, they do some of the wildest stuff you could imagine.

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Panel Host
Let's give them a huge round of applause for being brave. And they're at the front lines of this movement. It's these guys that are going to help us legalize it.

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Maria
Yeah, they're at the front lines, and they all share a common mission to change the conversation and make cannabis accessible for athletes who need it. Conversation around cannabis and professional sports. It's evolving, but some say not fast enough. Athletes put their bodies on the line, facing pain and injuries and long term health consequences. Yet they're ready. They are still pushed toward opioids, anti-inflammatories and other pharmaceuticals while being penalized for choosing a natural alternative.

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I'm happy to say, since that panel four years ago, major professional sports leagues in the US have significantly updated their cannabis policies. Cannabis. It's becoming well as mainstream as condiments and your favorite Super Bowl food. The NBA in the latest seven year collective bargaining agreement that became effective, in July of 2023, the NBA removed marijuana from its list of banned substances.

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Yay! Players are no longer subjected to random cannabis testing, and they're permitted to invest in cannabis related businesses. Now, the NFL has relaxed its cannabis policies by increasing the THC threshold for a positive test. Last I heard, it was decreased from 150 to 350 nanograms per milliliter. Players are no longer suspended solely for positive cannabis test, and instead fines are imposed as with amounts decreasing for subsequent violations.

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The NHL continues to test for cannabis Bu, but it is not classified as a banned substance, which is a big year for players who test positive, are not penalized, but may be offered entry into the league. Substance Abuse and Behavioral Health Program if THC levels are notably high, participation in that program is purely voluntary. You know, these changes reflect a growing acceptance of cannabis in professional sports, acknowledging its potential benefits for player health and well-being.

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Maria
So Super Bowl Sunday, it's coming, and I have a little Super Bowl and cannabis trivia. Are you ready? Who knows. Did you know that legendary NFL coach Bill Belichick once drafted a player who openly admitted to smoking weed before every game in college? You know, that was. Think about it. That player was Ricky Williams, the Heisman winning running back who later became one of the most outspoken advocates for one of the most outspoken advocates for cannabis in professional sports.

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Williams, who was suspended multiple times for cannabis use in the NFL. He eventually left football to study holistic medicine. He later co-founded Heisman, a cannabis lifestyle brand for athletes, proving that cannabis and sports do not have to be at odds. They can be a game changer for recovery and wellness. Fun fact the NFL stance on cannabis has evolved since rookies playing days as of 2021.

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Maria
Players no longer face suspensions for positive THC test and the threshold for a positive test was raised fourfold. Progress right? Well, you know what?

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Maria
It is 20 minutes into the show and 20 minutes into the show, where we're coming to you from means we're coming up on four 20:00 in Loma Linda, California. And that means it's time for today's quick hit. Today we're shining a spotlight on the science doctor David Berman, one of the leading voices in cannabinoid medicine. His book, The History of Cannabis Medicine takes readers on a deep dive into the plant's long standing role in healing throughout history.

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Maria
And now let's get smarter with today's quick hit by Doctor David Berman himself. In this exclusive quick hit clip.

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Maria
Things are changing in the cannabis space, but what we've experienced are more individuals, especially our seniors, coming to us for different types of disorders and wanting to know more about cannabinoid therapy in the work that we do. We've been blessed to have Doctor David Berman as our director of medicine, who has an extensive history in cannabis as medicine, as well as the history of cannabis.

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Eliza Maroney
This is a 500 page book that frames cannabis in the history of the use of psychoactive drugs, for spirituality, for healing, and for commerce and drug policy. We have used to marginalized, discriminated against people ever since Pope Innocent of Sex declared that cannabis was a tool of the devil in the 15th century. And he did that because it helped relieve the pain of childbirth from women.

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Eliza Maroney
And we know that they have that pain because of Eve's sin. The list goes on and on about the way in which we in this country, as well as around the world, have used drug policy to marginalize people. And in the last third of this book really talks about cannabis in contemporary times and its use as a medicine.

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Eliza Maroney
And the last chapter talks about if we were really serious about doing something about substance abuse, what we would do. This is a new book that's going to be coming out October 2018 that is sort of designed for nurses and doctors, and I hope it'll be used as a textbook. And it covers a lot of the science related to cannabis, cannabinoids, and the endocannabinoid system.

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Eliza Maroney
It's got a lot of science in it, but most of it is readable and understandable. The American Academy of Cannabinoid Medicine is there to certify those cannabinoid medicine specialists to a practicing, good quality medicine. We want to marginalize those doctors like the Doc in Venice Beach, who has the gal in the bikini out in front saying, evaluation is 3995.

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Eliza Maroney
Cannabis is a real medicine. It deserves more respect.

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Maria
Yes, absolutely. If you read the doctor's book, he gave me a copy last year. It's one of the most definitive sources on history. I didn't know cannabis had people vilifying it. I thought that started with Reefer Madness in the 30s. I didn't know it went all the way back. And, well, now, for any of the viewers that.

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Eliza Maroney
Want to buy your book is it available online for purchase? You can get it, on Amazon. And I really appreciate you giving me the opportunity to, bring these to the attention of your audience.

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Maria
That's why cannabis is a medicine. Well, stay tuned, because after a quick word from our sponsor, I'm going to be sharing an exclusive interview with former NBA basketball star John Salley. He's got a game changing perspective on cannabis, why he uses it, why he started his brand Deuce 22, and how it could reshape the way we approach pain management, recovery and overall wellness.

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Maria
You're not going to want to miss this. Did you know.

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Eliza Maroney
THC and CBD are just two of more than 100 cannabinoids.

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Eliza Maroney
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Maria
Welcome back. You're listening to Just Say No on KCR radios 10:50 a.m. 106.5 FM. I'm your host, Maria Calibri. And, I have to say, before the commercial break, I t's an exclusive interview I had with John Salley, and, it's it's it's time to dive into the game changing conversation around cannabis and professional sports. Sally played for the Detroit Pistons from 1986 to 1992.

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Maria
Miami Heat 92 to 95, the Toronto Raptors 95 and 96, the Chicago Bulls in 96, and yes, the LA Lakers in 1999 and 2000. He won NBA championships with three different teams the Detroit Pistons in 89 and 90, Chicago Bulls in 96, and the Los Angeles Lakers in 2000, making him the first player in NBA history to win titles with three different franchises.

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Well, the wait is over. John is not only a four time NBA champion, but also a passionate advocate for plant based wellness. I caught up with him in Los Angeles at a hemp conference held at the Los Angeles Trade Technical College, which he supports, and he shared why he turned to cannabis for well-being and how it led him to launch his own brand, deuces 22.

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Maria
All right, let's get on with this exclusive Green Bee Life TV interview with hemp advocate and host Rico.

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This is Rico with Green Bee Life, and I'm here with Anthony, Mike Peters and John Salley. We just finished an event at the L.A. Trade Tech with the Industrial Hemp Alliance. I'm gonna hand it off to Anthony to tell you more about hand pathways.

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Speaker 7
Well, we're launching the pathway series in the into Los Angeles trade and what we do in his career focus. So we want to focus on implementing hemp in everyone's career here, trying to create entrepreneurs. We have nine pathways here at Traité. So we try to implement hemp in every one of them. Also have nine sister colleges. And we're going to implement hemp in those pathways as well.

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Speaker 8
Explain to me how you involved with the hemp industry.

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Al Harrington
I have, cannabis company with my daughter called deuces 22. She's CEO with pre-rolls and gummies and the sister plant I'm going to say to the hemp plant, I literally am involved with the hemp grow in California. I am a part of Hemp Week, and I own All-American Hemp Company. When I met Anthony at Stuff I eat in Inglewood, we was at a vegan restaurant.

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Al Harrington
Happy to see you there. He's living the lifestyle from what he puts in his body to what he puts on his body, to what he puts out in the world. So I had to come check it out.

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Speaker 8
Sounds really interesting. You guys met at.

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Al Harrington
Where vegan raw restaurant called stuff I. It's on Market Street in Inglewood. It was there since 2008, before the vegan craze took a hold of America. They were already ten years ahead of themselves. I like being around that. I drive all the way to Inglewood to eat. I live out in the valley. I go in to support the community.

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Speaker 8
It's a pretty far.

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Al Harrington
I drive an electric car, so I'm not really wasting anything.

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Speaker 8
That's the way to go. That's the way to go. You are very involved in the industry. Do you partake?

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Al Harrington
I'm about to, I was waiting too long for this, interview. Is why it's such a straight interview. No, I do, I believe so the history is I played in the NBA and for a long time, and not until my 15th year and a month before I retired, that I smoke cannabis. And I don't ever remember feeling that good except for winning a championship.

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Al Harrington
And if I would have been smoking my entire career, why, I probably have less children. I would have way more money saved. And I probably still be playing because it's an amazing plant. I am investigating and finding a thousand ways of dealing with it. There's 200 ways of dealing with it in hemp. And just on that farm, on the medical side, what it does in the CBD and CPGs and C-v-s all kind of exercises in the letters, this plant is involved with and the fact that we're out of prohibition or heading out of prohibition is a good thing.

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Al Harrington
So encompassing it all is what I plan on doing.

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Speaker 8
That sounds perfect. And you compared it to winning a championship. That's pretty that's pretty good.

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Al Harrington
Yeah. If you ever smoke the weed we're about to put out on deuces, you would be winning a championship. That's what it feels to be a champion.

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Speaker 8
That sounds like a slogan to me.

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Al Harrington
It sounds like marketing 100. I'm a champion every day.

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Speaker 8
Every day they're trying to do a hemp pathway. They're trying to get more people to get in this industry and educate them. Because as we were listening, there's a lack of education. Would you be interested in, I don't know, having interns at some point in time in the future from any of these trade types that are educating people on on hemp and cannabis and how to process and manufacture and so on.

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Speaker 8
And so.

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Al Harrington
With Anthony, we had that conversation. But I'm a capitalist. I'm an American. So, you first have to put it in. And the reason I say that is usually people don't pay attention to anybody unless they've already done it, or unless they have enough money to make a mistake, do it again. So when you're starting from the same level going, we're going to bubble up.

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Al Harrington
That's one way of doing it. But if you want people involved, you have to be it. Jay-Z wasn't just another rapper, he was a rapper that made it then. Now when he speaks, it has some validity to it. If he was just another rapper, we heard the rhetoric before, but until he's gone out, did it come back and teach it?

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Al Harrington
That's when people pay respect, price people pay respect. When it cost something, when it doesn't cost anything, it usually has no value to, or it's bad for them, like government cheese.

00;31;16;09 - 00;31;16;29
Panel Host
That's free all.

00;31;16;29 - 00;31;20;00
Al Harrington
Day. And that's no good for government cheese.

00;31;20;00 - 00;31;44;02
Speaker 8
All right, Anthony, how do you see these hand pathways leading the future for trade tax and. Well, Ella, and you said you had nine separate campuses. So how do you see hemp as people around to get into the cannabis industry? Because it's a growing market. Hundreds of thousands of potential jobs in the very near future. Can LA trade to be the epicenter of, well, the education of this new boom?

00;31;44;04 - 00;32;01;26
Speaker 7
The reason why we chose to go into, industrial hemp rather than marijuana or anything like that, we felt that market was oversaturated. We felt that this was a marker that we can jump right in and, you know, taking just grab it and go, we believe trade tech would be a great candidate because we do everything industry of all trades here.

00;32;01;26 - 00;32;16;07
Speaker 7
We have nine trades here. So we can implement hemp in all those trades. And then others just to colleges like Pierce College that agriculture lack has journalism all types of things we can implement happen. And that's what we saw. And you saw the future in that.

00;32;16;07 - 00;32;19;07
Speaker 8
So how big do you think the future is?

00;32;19;10 - 00;32;31;05
Speaker 7
The future? I mean, it's going to be like some George Jetson flying cars on hemp ethanol type stuff. You know, that's what we're looking at. You know what I'm saying? We're trying to set the standards of this hemp game as what we want to do.

00;32;31;11 - 00;32;33;18
Speaker 8
That'll be dope. That would be, though.

00;32;33;20 - 00;32;35;20
Al Harrington
I mean, it would be dope.

00;32;35;23 - 00;32;58;16
Speaker 8
That would be literally though. Yeah, for sure. You guys met at a vegan restaurant, which is amazing. I'm a vegetarian, so I give props to both of you guys because it's pretty tough out there to, like, remain. Well, it can't be tough that tough for you, but tough for me. Let's. All right. So you guys are obviously into the sustainability mindset.

00;32;58;16 - 00;33;05;21
Speaker 8
You you see that this world could could be better. Why should people give it him. Why do you give a hint.

00;33;05;24 - 00;33;30;10
Al Harrington
The reason I'm vegan is because I am conscious. You really talk to people who aren't awake. They don't see it. I stop wasting my breath on the sleeping. As a conscious person, you have to realize that factory farming is destroying lives. The mentality is when you're a kid, they show you all these books on how you love the animals and the animals talk, Charlotte's Web, everything, all movies.

00;33;30;10 - 00;33;54;04
Al Harrington
But then they feed you chicken right after they feed you. A pig is smarter than a dog. Like if you're going to have a house pet, it should be a pig, to be honest. One people don't run up on it and alert you that something's going on. It's a smart animal, but people decide to eat it, and I think it's crazy that they distinguish cats, dogs, certain birds, certain fish get to live, but all the rest are made for us to live.

00;33;54;04 - 00;34;22;10
Al Harrington
That's that's ridiculous. The other part is, if you don't change your mentality by eating, not only you're destroying lives, you're destroying your life. The body is a fiber consuming, mammal. We are not supposed to be eating dead, decaying caucus or eating the menstrual cycle of a chicken, or eating the testicles of bulls and cows and, it just doesn't make any sense that those are things that we decided as food.

00;34;22;13 - 00;34;47;08
Al Harrington
And being a person of African descent, we in my community, are a community of people that look like me. We still eat slave food, so we're still enslaved mentally, one by the food we eat and two, by the way we were taught. So it's everybody has to make an impression on this planet. My impression is to have the least footprint that I can leave when I leave.

00;34;47;08 - 00;35;07;11
Al Harrington
And these are some big feet. But I decided to drive a green car. Being electric, I like the hemp ethanol mentality for those who still want to have cars to deal with liquid and fumes, I'm literally trying to breathe. I was in China last year and I didn't see the sun one time, and I was in a very nice place.

00;35;07;11 - 00;35;25;14
Al Harrington
But they are in a country like China, making it, a country wide mentality to get rid of the smog. So they're going electric. You heard no scooters. You still have crowds, but then pretty soon you have no cars and then they'll be able to see the sky. So it's a country behind that. They can call it communist, socialist or whatever.

00;35;25;17 - 00;35;42;09
Al Harrington
But the fact that the government is even notice problems with it and how to try to get around it is a is an impressive thing. So personally, eating vegan means I care about myself and care about myself, and I care about the planet and the next thing. So I don't think anything has to die for me to live.

00;35;42;11 - 00;35;47;17
Al Harrington
I'm obviously living well. It shows in my body and it shows in my mind.

00;35;47;19 - 00;35;54;24
Speaker 8
That's awesome. That's awesome for sure. And I'm going to ask the same question to you, man, why should people give a hand.

00;35;54;27 - 00;36;12;20
Speaker 7
Man? You should give a hand because you know, the future relies on it. And you know we're killing our planet and we're, you know, taking all the oil. We're taking all the natural resources. Right now, we can't even use straws in California because we know. And that all can be changed to hemp straw. We can do what we can do hemp bio biodegradable plastics.

00;36;12;20 - 00;36;32;03
Speaker 7
We can do anything with him. And so I feel that, you know, if he still I know for myself, you know, I want a straw. I don't put my lips on nobody glass in a restaurant. That's just me. So, you know, taking that luxury away because, you know, it's killing the environment. I mean, why why not, you know, step in and step into that product and put hemp in there.

00;36;32;06 - 00;36;40;15
Speaker 8
That's for sure. I've. I've had the idea of making hemp straws a little bit harder than, than it looks like. But near future. Very possible, very possible.

00;36;40;15 - 00;37;02;04
Al Harrington
You know what you can also do is have your own straw so you can come they sell them on Amazon. I don't mean to advertise on Amazon, but we all are. And you can literally they literally fold up. It's pretty slick. I got one in the car that's there and I carry my own bottle of water. I drink distilled water.

00;37;02;07 - 00;37;32;28
Al Harrington
Listen, you are a vegetarian. That means you like eggs and cheese. So you're a flesh eater to a degree, right? So casing is the number one cause of cancer is in cheese. It's not good cholesterol. 100% cholesterol is in eggs. So you're giving yourself high cholesterol and cancer cells. Why would you do that? Almond milk, more protein.

00;37;33;01 - 00;37;58;02
Al Harrington
Better for you. More filling. No animals had to die. Flaxseed eggs. Beyond, follow your hot eggs if you want that funky smell, you can get it. You can get it there. And it would scramble it. Dealers. It's it's really hard to not care about somebody when you're when you're a loving human being. It's really hard to not care about other people.

00;37;58;04 - 00;38;24;00
Al Harrington
It's not hard to eat well and care about other people. So and the benefit is I just turned 55, and I'm the same body weight that I was when I was 25, with the same libido and sex drive, which most guys can't say. You go to Vegas right now, they buy Viagra at 35 years old. So like, this helps you and your woman or your other mate, whatever it may be.

00;38;24;02 - 00;38;43;28
Al Harrington
This helps in all of the ways possible. Keeps your confidence going. You are able to leave and realize a wonderful thing you've done for the planet. If you ever look at a baby calf, you go, oh, sweet. Or you look at a little sheep, you go, wow, I see. But the funny thing is, they don't care about it when it gets to a certain age.

00;38;43;28 - 00;39;12;28
Al Harrington
It's just like certain parts of the government when they talk about pro-life and pro-choice. The truth about it is they want you at an age where they can use you. They're not really pro-life. They're not really caring about abortion. They're not they care about are we going to have somebody to make if we keep having an abortion, we're not going to have enough people pay taxes to pay for this, and we need them for soldiers, male and female, gay and straight.

00;39;13;03 - 00;39;33;10
Al Harrington
That tells you that that that they only want it for that. So when you deal with that pro-life, if you really about pro-life, you be about pro-life, like not just humans, because we're Earthlings. Everything on the planet deserves a right to be here, and everything on a planet adds to that ecosystem. You go out and see a whole bunch of cow dung.

00;39;33;11 - 00;39;56;01
Al Harrington
You be like, man, the cows are going crazy. That's called fertilizer, right? So you see, you get a whole bunch of goats and you go, man, I don't feel like cutting the grass. They just let your goats go out, come back. I have no grass. So everybody does what they do as a human being, the one who can make things because we got five fingers and thumbs and we can speak a different languages, just like animals.

00;39;56;01 - 00;40;03;05
Al Harrington
But we can make things. So it means we're not smarter, just we have more ingenuity, but doesn't mean they should die.

00;40;03;08 - 00;40;27;09
Speaker 8
There's been a different kind of mentality going on recently. There's people have been switching more to a vegetarian vegan lifestyles because they're more aware. This awareness that we're all collectively creating, it's going on to different like places. One of them is hemp. So this was made illegal. We went from complete prohibition to now we want to use it for 50,000 different products.

00;40;27;12 - 00;40;30;21
Speaker 8
When do you see hemp actually becoming widespread acceptance of hemp?

00;40;30;27 - 00;40;47;01
Speaker 7
Well, I think the time is now is crucial, you know, and it's about educating you yourself and the people around you. For example, veganism. I got my my crew right here. They keep me. I got a thing. I can't do it for Ali when I when I be like, I'll be wanting to do something. I'll be one litter.

00;40;47;09 - 00;41;08;08
Speaker 7
I'm, I'm, I do this for Ali. Me I'm not going to do it anal because you know, they help me out, you know, with everything I need to do to be sustainable with myself. And as far as hemp, you know, like he like John said, man, we want people to be alive. You know, there's so many aspects of this, this product, for example, Hemp Creek, man, you can have, a breathable wall that filters every all the air in your house.

00;41;08;08 - 00;41;27;29
Speaker 7
You know, you don't have any allergies. You know, green algae, a very toxic place. The air here is horrible. So you want that filtered out of your house and become your true safe place there so you can just, you know, implement hemp. There's so many benefits that we just have to take advantage of it, especially eating. Have you got all your omegas, all your proteins and just amazing.

00;41;28;01 - 00;41;43;16
Speaker 8
How long is it going to take for the rest of the country to wake up? Because there's still a lot of stigma towards this plant. A lot of people don't even know what it does or the benefits, and they're scared of it because it might get you a little high. So when do you think the the country as a whole is going to get over this stigma?

00;41;43;19 - 00;41;52;15
Speaker 7
Every day I think we get a little bit. So you do everything, you walk in the ways you preach in. Eventually it's going to just take over. You know, it's going to be a hemp revolution.

00;41;52;18 - 00;42;04;14
Speaker 8
When do you think the stigma is going to go away? Because you've been here for a longer. You've been in the industry, you're in the industry. Are things getting easier or things getting harder? What was your what do you feel about that?

00;42;04;17 - 00;42;30;22
Al Harrington
Well, the hemp plant cannot get you high. Cannabis plant can get you high. The hemp plant cannot get you out. There's no, no THC in a hemp plant. Especially the way that breaking it down now, there's, like I said, it's assist the plant to, They spent so much money, 1800s on pushing hemp away. So we got 100 years of propaganda to knock down.

00;42;30;24 - 00;42;57;23
Al Harrington
I tell people in 1919, prohibition was over. And to this day, people still think, I'm gonna take a drink. It's going to calm my nerves. Like they. You hear people say that, but they don't know why they say that. They think the drink is coming in nerves when it's really just getting in. Brain cells. If you smoke cannabis, it enhances your body and enhances brain cells.

00;42;57;25 - 00;43;24;02
Al Harrington
But they used to say it killed brain cells, right. So the teaching of it and the making it, as normal or as acceptable as possible, something that we do in everyday deal. It's going to be years and years. It took a long time for people to get over, like separating drinking fountains and restaurants. I mean, that's this is not, not not 60 years ago, right?

00;43;24;05 - 00;43;47;13
Al Harrington
Matter of fact, just 60 years ago, close. Right. So to this day. So it's it's it takes time to the fact he and I, people of color, of African descent are sitting up here doing an interview at tray ten is an amazing thing. So, you know, I don't discount it because I've seen when it wasn't, I have daughters who I don't know, I say take for granted.

00;43;47;20 - 00;44;11;20
Al Harrington
They supposedly take it as that the way is supposed to be right and wrong, not black and white. So I think in this world of of him one, we have to change the mentality that has about 86% of the people in jail for marijuana, happen to be of color. We also have to change what happens when you get, cited for having cannabis now, which is also changed.

00;44;11;22 - 00;44;17;25
Al Harrington
And we have to take away the feeling that stoners are not successful. I proved that to be totally false.

00;44;17;27 - 00;44;43;28
Speaker 8
All right. So we're talking a lot about sustainability and awareness and such. There's a lot of companies in the CBD and hemp market at this point in time that are kind of sketchy. They're not doing it the right way. They are wasting a lot. There's pesticides and there's stuff they're not supposed to be using. How do you start a hemp company and make it sustainable so that it's good for the for the environment and good for the your economy?

00;44;44;00 - 00;45;04;29
Al Harrington
The best thing about him is what it can be toxic ground and when you put him into the toxic ground, it literally it literally cleans and it makes the soil healthy. That's a great thing about this plant. The company I work with, Pure Crop one, we have a spray that literally does not kill insects. It's not a pesticide.

00;45;04;29 - 00;45;26;17
Al Harrington
Herbicide. It's an enhancement. It literally convinces the plant to vibrate at a higher level. So when you're talking about plants, greens vibrate, let's say here and in fruits here, fruit are the highest vibrating plant. So like between 11 and 2 I always tell people to eat because that's when your high bright you're vibrating at the highest level. And so it's fruit constantly.

00;45;26;19 - 00;45;47;29
Al Harrington
So if I spray it on and I get the plant to vibrate at a higher level, insects will eat it because they believe in the idea of the law of of of the universe is the weak. Usually the ones that I consume. So the plants that are dying is what the insects usually attack, you know, attack the one and wait for it to get big.

00;45;48;06 - 00;46;08;04
Al Harrington
They go, they pick their fight. So when they see a high vibrating plant that doesn't kill them, they just stay away from it. So sustainable because we can grow hemp four times a year and it takes, 100 years ago, a tree for the ones you want to. The ones that cut down.

00;46;08;08 - 00;46;12;11
Speaker 7
Takes three months to grow a fully grown hemp plant.

00;46;12;13 - 00;46;15;12
Speaker 8
100 years for a tree, 100 days for for a hemp plant.

00;46;15;18 - 00;46;16;07
Al Harrington
90.

00;46;16;09 - 00;46;20;10
Speaker 7
90 days.

00;46;20;12 - 00;46;41;25
Speaker 8
Oh, depends. Maybe it's for her. Maybe it's for fiber. It depends on what you're trying to do. Right past maturity. When it comes to the future of the industry, you're going to need to expand, and you're going to need a workforce to help you expand. So how do you think colleges like LA Trade Tech can help you as a business owner to expand even faster?

00;46;41;28 - 00;47;10;18
Al Harrington
So a friend of mine started, a cannabis course down in, a school down in Florida. It was, HBCU, historically black college university. They have a cannabis course. I think at trade tech it would be smart to have cannabis courses, not just by trading, but in the same way you do. If you were going to get into a business of building a florist, this plant is entirely different.

00;47;10;20 - 00;47;49;29
Al Harrington
We got so many things that can come out of it. One, how to sell it to, how to manufacture it, without destroying the integrity of the plant. Marketing sales force. The school can teach a lot of things, and I like that. It's in the middle of Los Angeles, and it's diverse. It's the most important part of it is that the diversity of it is out of this campus, because this is definitely, as I said, the future this plant is going to eradicate about 5 to 6 diseases in the next 20 years where we don't hear about them anymore.

00;47;50;02 - 00;48;14;24
Al Harrington
And that's a lot of money coming out of somebody else's coffers. So we have to be diligent, we have to be precise, and we have to be American capital minded not to let it slip through our hands, where it's an industry that we all can be a part of. My daughter Tyler and I and deuces, 22. She decided we don't have to be grandfathered in.

00;48;15;00 - 00;48;21;04
Al Harrington
We can be the pioneers. I just take the arrows instead. But she can still be the pioneers.

00;48;21;07 - 00;48;36;13
Speaker 8
That's awesome. And I'm going to end it with a question to kind of everybody. He just talked about a course that's being offered that's going to teach people the fundamentals of cannabis. Would you guys take this course if it was offered here?

00;48;36;15 - 00;48;40;29
Speaker 7
Oh yeah. You couldn't stop us. You'd be the first one signed to me.

00;48;41;07 - 00;48;42;28
Speaker 8
So let's get this course over here, man.

00;48;42;28 - 00;48;45;11
Speaker 7
That's what we're trying to do with this way. We're trying to do that.

00;48;45;12 - 00;48;56;01
Speaker 8
Sounds good. Sounds good to me. Can't wait to see you guys in action. Your brand is called deuces 22, right? Yeah. I'm kind of curious as to the name, though, right. Oh, how did that come about?

00;48;56;03 - 00;49;16;00
Al Harrington
I played an NBA. My basketball number in college was retired. Number 22 should be retired in about four NBA places. But we won't get into that now. So I've always been my daughter was my numbers. Deuces always been my number. So, we came up with a great logo, how it looks. And it was everyone knew what it was.

00;49;16;01 - 00;49;42;02
Al Harrington
A song came out about it. I was great. So just it being in people's mind. But it's a lifestyle brand and cannabis. We got to only have 22 SKUs of cannabis, and the rest goes into every other pot. That's one of the reasons I'm here is everything from shoes to socks to pants to belts to underwear to t shirts to sweatshirts to suits, to linens inside your car linens on your bed.

00;49;42;05 - 00;50;00;00
Al Harrington
Every single. Every single piece. Hats. It's all it's all going. It got to be have, some form and some breakdown to him. He even hooked me up with somebody. So that's mainly what it is. And you can check it out at deuces 22 Cannabis on Instagram or deuces 22.com.

00;50;00;02 - 00;50;12;09
Speaker 8
Perfect. I got to check that out for sure. You got to check that out. And what about Industrial Hemp Alliance man. How do we get in contact if someone wants to become, a chapter in their college, how would they go about that?

00;50;12;12 - 00;50;27;01
Speaker 7
Man? Reach out to us. We'll be more than happy to come in and put a workshop at your college. Will come and help you get established. We'll do you. Anything will. Our job is to provide you with every resource you need to become successful. So anything you you need come to us would work our best. And we will.

00;50;27;01 - 00;50;41;02
Speaker 7
We'll get that for you. And, if you want to reach out to us, you can hit us up at H.R. Hemp at gmail.com. We also have Lehigh Hemp on Instagram and Mr. Cannabis at Instagram. And, at.

00;50;41;05 - 00;50;42;06
Speaker 8
Miss your cannabis.

00;50;42;09 - 00;50;42;19
Speaker 7
Mr..

00;50;42;19 - 00;50;54;11
Speaker 8
Cannabis for sure man. All right so industrial hemp Alliance deuces 22 green bee life. It's been a good talk. Thank you guys for sure.

00;50;54;13 - 00;51;08;15
Speaker 8
They have hemp hurray.

00;51;08;18 - 00;51;53;27
Maria
Hemp. Hemp hooray for sure. That fantastic John Salley, former NBA basketball champion, cannabis advocate, entrepreneur, veterinary veterinarian. Well, might as well be vegetarian. Healthy lifestyle, healthy, sustainable lifestyle. Supporting the Los Angeles Trade Technical College. While the, latke doesn't yet offer a formal academic program specifically dedicated to industrial hemp hemp, what I love is the college's commitment.

00;51;53;29 - 00;52;37;01
Maria
To hemp related initiatives through student led organizations and events, and a shout out to the Industrial Hemp Alliance. The idea g I h a industrial hemp Alliance I h a founded by two incredible young women students, Abigail and Noemi Cuevas. And to Anthony Anthony McAfee, who was also interviewed during that panel and who is the huge tour de force with the International Hemp Alliance, working with Alb Abigail and Noemi Cuevas.

00;52;37;03 - 00;53;08;15
Maria
They've been very active in promoting the hemp industry within the campus community. The International Hemp Alliance has organized educational workshops, cooking demonstrations, and even a hemp fashion show to raise awareness about the diverse applications of hemp, and hosted that. The panel that attracted John Sally, he, heard about it and attended it. A true true MVP.

00;53;08;17 - 00;53;40;08
Maria
But so if you're in Los Angeles, yeah, you want to support and check out that International Hemp Alliance. But, also in Los Angeles, I just want to mention several other colleges and universities, actually across the entire, country that have integrated hemp related studies into their curricula, it reflects the growing interest in hemp cultivation and processing and its various applications.

00;53;40;10 - 00;54;13;28
Maria
And some call it the, the Super Bowl, different kind of bowl of weed. So, University of California, Riverside. They have a cannabis studies certificate program at UC Riverside. It's a 24 week online course covering various aspects of the cannabis industry, including the agriculture and horticulture. They're not exclusively focused on hemp, but, the program encompasses the hemp relevant agricultural practices.

00;54;14;00 - 00;54;52;29
Maria
You also have Cornell University. They have a hemp program. And it, offers a webinar series featuring experts discussing topics including hemp cultivation, processing and genetics. These webinars provide valuable insights into the latest developments in hemp research and industry practices. Saint Louis Community College They offer a Certificate of Specialization in Cannabis and Hemp Production program, educates students on the specialized processes necessary to grow, manage, and cultivate cannabis and hemp plants in accordance with their state and federal laws.

00;54;53;02 - 00;55;30;04
Maria
Murray State University They've positioned themselves as a national leader in agricultural hemp development, focusing on research, education, policy and innovation within the hemp industry and Vermont State University. Their Cannabis Studies Certificate program is offers a 12 credit interdisciplinary program exploring the various dimensions of cannabis, including its historical, cultural, economic, political, legal, medicinal and spiritual aspects. Aspects. It's a multifaceted plant, folks.

00;55;30;06 - 00;55;59;15
Maria
And that their program also includes cultivation of cannabis, commercial development of, industrial hemp. So, hey, these programs, they reflect and validate the increasing recognition of cannabis and hemp. Significance in agriculture, industry and commerce. And, we need students to be the next workforce. They need to have the knowledge and skills to engage in this, evolving field.

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Maria
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All right. I'm your host, Maria Galbraith. And today we've been discussing cannabis and sports from the professional athletes, sparking conversations to help everyone rethink cannabis as a treatment option and as an agricultural crop. Even down to what's in their Super Bowl. Buffalo wing condiments. So, as we wrap up today's conversation, one thing is clear cannabis and sports are becoming more intertwined than ever.

00;57;51;00 - 00;58;24;12
Maria
While the NFL has taken steps toward updating its cannabis policies, sure, it still lags behind leagues like the NBA, which have fully removed marijuana from their banned substances list. Athletes, scientists and advocates continue to push for change, recognizing cannabis as a legit tool for recovery. And speaking of football, we can't close out without mentioning the biggest game of the year Super Bowl is just days away.

00;58;24;12 - 00;58;58;17
Maria
Whether you're in it for the game, the commercials, the halftime show, or just the infused condiment snacks, it's a cultural phenomenon that brings people together. But here's a fun fact did you know that Las Vegas is the host of this year's Super Bowl, is home to some of the largest dispensaries in the country? Cannabis lounges are now part of the Vegas experience, making this the first Super Bowl played in a city where cannabis consumption is fully legal and socially accepted.

00;58;58;20 - 00;59;25;21
Maria
You know, the cannabis industry as a whole is breaking into mainstream spaces, from major sporting events to cultural celebrations, complete with infused pizza and dipping sauces. The Super Bowl and even holidays are presenting new opportunities for normalization. Education and engagement with a wider audience raises an interesting question will we see cannabis brands make their way into Super Bowl advertising in the near future?

00;59;25;24 - 00;59;53;14
Maria
With the mainstream acceptance growing, it might not be long before a cannabis company lands a coveted Super Bowl ad spot. Imagine a halftime commercial featuring pro athletes advocating for cannabis as part of their wellness routine. We're witnessing history in the making, and these conversations matter. Whether you're a fan, an athlete, or just someone curious about changing the landscape, it's an exciting time.

00;59;53;16 - 01;00;30;27
Maria
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01;01;07;02 - 01;01;13;19
Maria
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